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		<title>Comment on Invalid HTML considered harmful by webdesign</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2009/04/28/invalid-html-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-7637</link>
		<dc:creator>webdesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info. The topic This Blog Is Not For Reading  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Invalid HTML considered harmful was just what I was looking for. Will bookmark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. The topic This Blog Is Not For Reading  &raquo; Blog Archive   &raquo; Invalid HTML considered harmful was just what I was looking for. Will bookmark!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telephone Number Format Standards by Slow Computer Blog</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2010/03/20/telephone-number-format-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7624</link>
		<dc:creator>Slow Computer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just perfect :D Thankyou for putting this out there!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just perfect <img src='http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Thankyou for putting this out there!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Administrator</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/about/comment-page-1/#comment-6087</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RobertX: 

Write letters to your Member of Parliament, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the Honourable James Moore.  

Write letters to your local newspapers and the national newspapers. 

Talk to your friends.  Talk to strangers. 

If you&#039;re in school, work UBB into essays, theses, and term papers. 

If you&#039;re at work, make comments in proposals, quotations, and on the cover page of your TPS report. 

Blog. 

Tweet. 

Dent.

--Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RobertX: </p>
<p>Write letters to your Member of Parliament, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the Honourable James Moore.  </p>
<p>Write letters to your local newspapers and the national newspapers. </p>
<p>Talk to your friends.  Talk to strangers. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in school, work UBB into essays, theses, and term papers. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re at work, make comments in proposals, quotations, and on the cover page of your TPS report. </p>
<p>Blog. </p>
<p>Tweet. </p>
<p>Dent.</p>
<p>&#8211;Bob.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by RobertX</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/about/comment-page-1/#comment-5868</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 06:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurel suggested that I should let more people know about the recent CRTC ruling for the party supporting Usage Based Billing. But there&#039;s only so much I can do, I&#039;ll try again however.

What is your suggestion, Robert; what do you think I, a Canadian citizen and an Internet user, should do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurel suggested that I should let more people know about the recent CRTC ruling for the party supporting Usage Based Billing. But there&#8217;s only so much I can do, I&#8217;ll try again however.</p>
<p>What is your suggestion, Robert; what do you think I, a Canadian citizen and an Internet user, should do?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transcript: The Neutral Throttle? An interview with CRTC Chairman Konrad von Finckenstein by CRTC Approved UBB &#171; Stop Usage Based Billing</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2009/10/31/transcript-the-neutral-throttle-an-interview-with-crtc-chairman-konrad-von-finckenstein/comment-page-1/#comment-5773</link>
		<dc:creator>CRTC Approved UBB &#171; Stop Usage Based Billing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 21:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212;CRTC Chairman Konrad von Finckenstein Search Engine with Jesse Brown: The Neutral Throttle? An interview with CRTC Chairman Konrad von Finckenstein  Transcript on This Blog Is Not For Reading [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Transcript: The iTax &amp; Fair Dealing Search Engine&#8217;s Jesse Brown interviews Charlie Angus by Laurel L. Russwurm</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2010/04/03/transcript-the-itax-fair-dealing-search-engines-jesse-brown-interviews-charlie-angus/comment-page-1/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel L. Russwurm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twenty to thirty thousand dollars to record an album?  You can set up a professional caliber home studio for less, after which everything you record would be virtually free.   It&#039;s possible to record an album for a tenth of that.   

I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s what a CRIA record label charges back to the artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twenty to thirty thousand dollars to record an album?  You can set up a professional caliber home studio for less, after which everything you record would be virtually free.   It&#8217;s possible to record an album for a tenth of that.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s what a CRIA record label charges back to the artists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transcript: The iTax &amp; Fair Dealing Search Engine&#8217;s Jesse Brown interviews Charlie Angus by uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2010/04/03/transcript-the-itax-fair-dealing-search-engines-jesse-brown-interviews-charlie-angus/comment-page-1/#comment-5420</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Identica by bobjonkman: Transcript of @jessebrown&#039;s #Search_Engine interview with Charlie Angus: http://ur1.ca/t2a1...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Invalid HTML considered harmful by Stephen Paul Weber</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2009/04/28/invalid-html-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5325</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Paul Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bug is probably mostly in your theme.  I run WordPress at my site, and generate fully well-formed XHTML as well as mostly-valid XHTML5 (I output some legacy meta tags that HTML5 hates, I also use the rev=&quot;&quot; attribute which I do not believe should have been removed, and my use of ins and del tags is often just day-level granularity on datetime=&quot;&quot;)

Are you using the vanilla theme?  I could probably help you fix it up :)

About the inserting tel: links : do you have the WYSIWYG editor off completely, or are you using the &quot;code&quot; tab on it?  Turning it off is much safer.

I also use http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/x-valid/ to make sure that commentors cannot insert markup that breaks my well-formedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bug is probably mostly in your theme.  I run WordPress at my site, and generate fully well-formed XHTML as well as mostly-valid XHTML5 (I output some legacy meta tags that HTML5 hates, I also use the rev=&#8221;" attribute which I do not believe should have been removed, and my use of ins and del tags is often just day-level granularity on datetime=&#8221;")</p>
<p>Are you using the vanilla theme?  I could probably help you fix it up <img src='http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>About the inserting tel: links : do you have the WYSIWYG editor off completely, or are you using the &#8220;code&#8221; tab on it?  Turning it off is much safer.</p>
<p>I also use <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/x-valid/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/x-valid/</a> to make sure that commentors cannot insert markup that breaks my well-formedness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telephone Number Format Standards by Bob</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2010/03/20/telephone-number-format-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-5318</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E.123 applies to written letterhead, business cards, &amp;c but not the encoding of URIs in HTML.  

It seems that the ITU (or at least the authors of E.123) don&#039;t understand the requirements of URI syntax.  In setting a standard to make a written phone number visually appealing, E.123 created a syntax incompatible with URIs.  Spaces in a phone number make for an invalid URI.   E.123 also advocates writing URLs without the scheme identifier, eg. &quot;Web: singpolyma.net&quot; instead of &quot;Web: https://singpolyma.net&quot;  .  While browsers are remarkably tolerant of missing schemes, as a standards conformance purist I find that E.123 does not follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986&quot; title=&quot;Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RFC3986 [STD66]: Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s an important difference if you need to identify an FTP server from a Web server at the same address, or, as in your case, selecting a secure protocol instead of an insecure protocol.

Instead, following the telephone number syntax of &lt;a href=&quot;http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3601&quot; title=&quot;Text String Notation for Dial Sequences and Global Switched Telephone Network (GSTN) / E.164 Addresses&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RFC3601&lt;/a&gt; provides both valid URI syntax and a human-readable presentation.  

I&#039;m not sure what makes the ITU authoritative over written correspondence or written URL presentation, but they try. But they&#039;re not authoritative over URI schemes, and I&#039;ll take my standards from the IETF instead.

One good thing to come out of this: In researching this comment, I found that the ITU has now released the text of E.123 as a free (as in gratis) PDF file, available from  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-E.123-200102-I/en&quot; title=&quot;E.123 : Notation for national and international telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and Web addresses&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-E.123-200102-I/en&lt;/a&gt;.

--Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.123 applies to written letterhead, business cards, &amp;c but not the encoding of URIs in HTML.  </p>
<p>It seems that the ITU (or at least the authors of E.123) don&#8217;t understand the requirements of URI syntax.  In setting a standard to make a written phone number visually appealing, E.123 created a syntax incompatible with URIs.  Spaces in a phone number make for an invalid URI.   E.123 also advocates writing URLs without the scheme identifier, eg. &#8220;Web: singpolyma.net&#8221; instead of &#8220;Web: <a href="https://singpolyma.net" rel="nofollow">https://singpolyma.net</a>&#8221;  .  While browsers are remarkably tolerant of missing schemes, as a standards conformance purist I find that E.123 does not follow <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986" title="Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax" rel="nofollow">RFC3986 [STD66]: Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax</a>.  It&#8217;s an important difference if you need to identify an FTP server from a Web server at the same address, or, as in your case, selecting a secure protocol instead of an insecure protocol.</p>
<p>Instead, following the telephone number syntax of <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3601" title="Text String Notation for Dial Sequences and Global Switched Telephone Network (GSTN) / E.164 Addresses" rel="nofollow">RFC3601</a> provides both valid URI syntax and a human-readable presentation.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what makes the ITU authoritative over written correspondence or written URL presentation, but they try. But they&#8217;re not authoritative over URI schemes, and I&#8217;ll take my standards from the IETF instead.</p>
<p>One good thing to come out of this: In researching this comment, I found that the ITU has now released the text of E.123 as a free (as in gratis) PDF file, available from  <a href="http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-E.123-200102-I/en" title="E.123 : Notation for national and international telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and Web addresses" rel="nofollow">http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-E.123-200102-I/en</a>.</p>
<p>&#8211;Bob.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Invalid HTML considered harmful by Bob</title>
		<link>http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2009/04/28/invalid-html-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5317</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it.  And I&#039;m not happy about it.

This is a Wordpress blog, which is oodles better than &lt;a href=&quot;http://thisblogisnotforreading.blogspot.com&quot; title=&quot;Blogspot: This Blog Is Not For Reading&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Blogspot blog I used to use&lt;/a&gt;. But, as you point out it&#039;s not perfect either.

I&#039;m not sure if the invalid HTML comes as a result of the templates or themes I&#039;m using, or if the Wordpress code itself is sloppy.  Certainly the editor is terrible.  I compose the posts with the non-WYSIWYG editor, but it won&#039;t let me insert certain types of markup.  For example, I tried to put in a URL with the tel: URI scheme, but the editor won&#039;t accept that.    &lt;a href=&quot;tel:+1-519-635-9413&quot;&gt; has the &quot;tel:&quot; stripped out.  Listen, Wordpress, &lt;em&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/em&gt; editing the code, and you should do what &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; tell you to.

Sigh. Thanx for your sympathies.

--Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it.  And I&#8217;m not happy about it.</p>
<p>This is a WordPress blog, which is oodles better than <a href="http://thisblogisnotforreading.blogspot.com" title="Blogspot: This Blog Is Not For Reading" rel="nofollow">the Blogspot blog I used to use</a>. But, as you point out it&#8217;s not perfect either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the invalid HTML comes as a result of the templates or themes I&#8217;m using, or if the WordPress code itself is sloppy.  Certainly the editor is terrible.  I compose the posts with the non-WYSIWYG editor, but it won&#8217;t let me insert certain types of markup.  For example, I tried to put in a URL with the tel: URI scheme, but the editor won&#8217;t accept that.    &lt;a href=&#8221;tel:+1-519-635-9413&#8243;&gt; has the &#8220;tel:&#8221; stripped out.  Listen, WordPress, <em>I&#8217;m</em> editing the code, and you should do what <em>I</em> tell you to.</p>
<p>Sigh. Thanx for your sympathies.</p>
<p>&#8211;Bob.</p>
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